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Dominique Vasilkovsky
Techmart Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.14 09:16:00 -
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With the addition of the new Adv LAB, is it possible to have 12tF CPU added to the small Gallente tower?
To fit 2 x Adv + 1 x basic LAB you will need 1700tF (2x600+500), the tower produce 1688. 
People using small Caldari towers will be laughing as they easily can fit 3 Adv LABs and still have spare CPU left.
Ofcourse the best option would be to only add 10% CPU/PG to the Adv LAB. Could fit 3 of them on a small Gallente tower then. 
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
Techmart Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.14 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chronotis the ability to move two freighters worth of minerals in a frigate is broke
If you can fit a frig with 4 offline jump portal generators in the highslots using a POS I can see how this would be possible.
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
Techmart Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.19 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chronotis Update regarding Advanced Mobile Lab
The original concept has changed following feedback. The lab now has 3 copy (0.65* time mod), 2 ME (0.75* time mod) and 2 invention (0.5* times mod). The advantage being it significantly increases the alternatives for copy slots and research specific to invention which finds a niche for both types of lab.
I see you killed half the slots and still keep the price and fuel penalty vs the normal LAB. 
So if this new advanced LAB is tailored for invention, why does it have ME slots? Or did you just give us a confirmation that the ME level actually do affect the invention chances? 
Will you lower the amount of invention slots on the basic LAB to tailor it more towards normal research?
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
Techmart Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.21 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chronotis Update regarding Advanced Mobile Lab
The original concept has changed following feedback. The lab now has 3 copy (0.65* time mod), 2 ME (0.75* time mod) and 2 invention (0.5* times mod). The advantage being it significantly increases the alternatives for copy slots and research specific to invention which finds a niche for both types of lab.
Ok, I have done some math with the new numbers above. The unit I will use slot/h, as in equal to 1h research at a NPC station.
Copying
Standard LAB - 1 slot, 0.75 multiplier = 1.33 slot/h Advanced LAB - 3 slots, 0.65 multiplier = 4.62 slot/h
Invention
Standard LAB - 5 slots, 0.75 multiplier = 6.667 slot/h Advanced LAB - 2 slots, 0.50 multiplier = 4 slot/h
Material Efficiency
Standard LAB - 3 slots, 0.75 multiplier = 4 slot/h Advanced LAB - 2 slots, 0.75 multiplier = 2.67 slot/h
Speed difference with adv vs standard LAB:
Copying: 3.46x Invention: 0.6x Material Efficiancy: 0.4x
With the BPCs passing through the lab at 4.62 slot/h (6.15 with research V) and the invention running at 4 slot/h it is almost back to the original 6 copy 4 inv design. The only difference is that the skill and time bonus are removed in the process.
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
Techmart Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Two step
Originally by: Dominique Vasilkovsky
Invention
Standard LAB - 5 slots, 0.75 multiplier = 6.667 slot/h Advanced LAB - 2 slots, 0.50 multiplier = 4 slot/h
Standard labs are also .5 multiplier, not .75
Thanks, it's been a while since I used a mobile lab.
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
Techmart Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.22 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Nesa TBH I'd LOVE a lab that took twice as much fitting and could give me 10 copy / 10 invention. The micro-managment with a dozen labs becomes abit much (which lab did that copy output to, which lab do I need these minerals in etc etc.). Higher fittings also means less individual structures which has to be easier (although not much) on the server etc. Since one char can fairly easily use 10 slots at once, it would be much easier to have a lab per character (for copying / invention etc).
For the micro management issue (which is annoying) it would be easier to use small/medium/large labs: Small = current lab Medium = 3 x current lab slots, 4 x fitting Large = 7 x current lab slots, 10 x fitting
Another solution would be to add a silo system for labs so all output/input materials can be placed in a central location.
Instead of this Adv lab I would love to have an Intensive Lab with say with 1 copy slot with a 0.2x bonus (5slot/h) and 2 invention slots with a 0.2x bonus (10slot/h) at the cost of 100% higher fitting requirements.
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